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Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC
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Posted - 2014.04.01 15:51:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:what's a skiff cost point-wise in the alliance tournament
Fill the next tournament area with asteroids to create terrain, then allow barges and exhumers in to modify the terrain.
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Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC
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Posted - 2014.04.01 16:05:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Changing the mining bonus to a duration based one is of some help to the issue I will bring up. But the Skiff, and to some extent the Mack still have one big disadvantage compared to the Hulk: fewer strips. To see the issue consider:
Most miners target a roid and let the miner run its full cycle. If the roid is small some fraction of the cycle will be wasted. With the Hulk if one of your strips is on a small roid you will lose some small fraction of your yield, up to a maximum of one third.
But with the Skiff you could lose up to a complete cycle by targeting a small roid. As the single strip takes so much ore in one cycle there is a greater chance the roid will pop and you lose part of the cycle.
The result is under most practical uses, the Skiff mines much less than your table of numbers would indicate.
Isn't that the whole point of the Hulk, to give the miner much more fine-grained control and reward his paying attention with higher yields?
Not that it addresses the twin problems that the mining minigame itself doesn't encourage close attention, and given that, the presence of gankers pretty much drives people into more AFK-friendly ships. But it doesn't seem to me like the solution is to make the Skiff more like the Hulk.
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Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC
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Posted - 2014.04.01 16:25:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Where going afk, botting or ISboxing was frowned upon and punished hard.
When was that? 
Also:
+1 to bonuses being more skill-dependent.
Looks good all around. The Skiff looks like the kind of mining barge I could convince myself to fly. As long as the Retriever and Mackinaw retain enormous ore holds and mining remains a low-input activity, they will continue to cover the belts.
If you want more Hulks in the belts, the chatter in Jita Park and elsewhere about coming up with more social mechanics for the game would come in handy: it's a paper-thin, high-maintenance fleet ship now, so as long as you make it difficult or excessively risky for people to band together or cooperate, you'll only see them in dead-end sov nullsec, protected by entire regions' worth of intel channels and enough bubbles to make meringue.
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Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC
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Posted - 2014.04.10 15:28:00 -
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I increasingly like the idea that the Hulk's advantage would be versatility. The Skiff and the Mack are good at exactly one thing each (well, two, if you rig them for ice mining). If the Hulk's advantage was slots and fitting room, then they could become a lot more compelling. Heck, you could even give them turret hardpoints for, uh, gas mining. ;-)
Sure, you couldn't get a Skiff's tank regardless, but maybe you could choose between meh yield and a Mack tank or easily-best-in-class yield and an assault frigate tank. Or go average on both and fit for mobility and agility, or fit for DPS and turn them into tolerably good turret-and-drone boats.
Skiff: Max tank, and DPS. Mack: Max hold, and good yield. Hulk: Max customization, with the option of max yield.
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Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:46:00 -
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Harvey James wrote:Kellaen wrote:Has any thought been given to allowing the Orca a compression ability like it's sibling the Rorqual? why would they its just a industrial command ship .. so bonus to links is all it needs
If it could use anything, it would be a bigger ore hold. Not urgently, though.
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